History & cultureMichael Button | Patterns of HistoryThis Warning Always Appears Before Empires Collapse
This Warning Always Appears Before Empires Collapse
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Why do powerful empires keep collapsing?
From Rome and the Maya to Han China, the same warning sign appears again and again: societies are forced to spend more and more simply to stand still.
Eventually, the systems built to save them become too expensive to survive...
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